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before i was outed in two thousand so to talk more about what's going on and joining me from mexico city is investigative journalist andrew khanna standard thank you so much for coming on. good but so andrew let's first talk about the mood in mexico city right now have the protests and did what you set the scene for our audience. there's definitely more protests being organized all of them are the only basis here in mexico city and it's sort of the mood concern it's one of tension and security and certainly a lot of folks are bracing for what the return of the party that will next over seventy one years actually mean especially when the first day of this return included a fatality three very serious injuries and well over one hundred people arrested during what was so pretty rockets and rockets exist it's not a problem though with the arrest and actually also with the injuries as well that apparently none of them occurred with the folks that were actually involved
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instruction that one of the anarchist groups that playing responsibility for the resistance was just really trying to penetrate a permanent change that was three miles away from the same place that any of that was in forming which was the mexican congress here in which the city. they were trying to penetrate the perimeter fence and they came out with a statement saying that none of our comrades none of our people are in jail or in solidarity with the people that are in jail and then reports came out as well from a variety of human groups saying that actually a lot of these folks that were jailed were just literally picked the street or were demonstrators were not involved in the search in their you tube videos that were uploaded that showed a guy just beating your talk a standard that literally picked up among the prey was really mad it's another guy in the street that got picked up and like i said a lot of peaceful demonstrators so not only was there excessive force that resulted in injuries a in serious critical condition of people who need to look through it which they had lost on vision was. their eyes. who had.
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head injuries weren't even in brain mind and that's what really gruesome photos there. and again it was well is at least a death that's been by moving organizers if not by officials and so again a lot of the chest of course not exactly successfully targeted if it even was trying to be targeted at the folks involved in the search itself looks like the main cause of much much of these interest injuries and and the possible death was the fact that the police were aiming their tear gas canisters not near it but directly at the protesters this is because the sources and one of the leading causes of the injuries again that's what's causing the certainty the tension and even the fear products definitely all of a lot of condemnation coming from international human rights groups it sounds like there's a lot of aggressive force from that from the right place thank you for explaining all that and confirming some of these rumors. are these latest protests in mexico
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a part of the oh sorry can't the movement that was also equated with the so-called mexican spring or is it just branched off in a kind of just a whole swell of other movement and people there. just among human rights groups that were issuing concern economists including amnesty international by the way. the local officials human rights groups specific which is usually pretty stated so there's definitely a lot of concern not just among the protesters but among experts in human rights abuses as well. as far as the. concerned it's important to realize that this movement by a hundred thirty one people out of they don't many university they uploaded their their id right after a very famous protest that kicked the whole movement to the internet to show that they were back real students for the first reaction by the next news media was that the students are just getting paid by the couple of the campaign or something like that and so they uploaded their show. otherwise kind of embarrassed the next
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meeting and you don't want to clean up a presidential debate before the election so the hundred thirty one people to be better many comics were definitely of all the protests yesterday were definitely organized but that may not support the property destruction it definitely did not i spoke to several of the folks involved with it but even less the property destruction was happening and therein lies a bit of the division with the movement but they nonetheless condemnations about the arrest the standard solidarity with them with all the protestors and they are very concerned that again the targeting of these protesters is very haphazard almost. completely chaotic and literally it was found and so they issued statements against that and pretty much their position reiterated their past the stance that they don't engage in property discussions destruction and. that that's basically their official stance toward forward this movement now again let's move on really quickly there's a lot i want to get into and we don't have time but i wanted you to explain the
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significance of of free returning to power after being ousted and why so many people are protesting this rain and also a lot of people are protesting televisa. the televised coverage of the general elections on bias talk about those two specific aspects of these protests and. well during the time time that this movement really surge and started this past may flowing right into just this last saturday and even on. that there have been organized there was reports that were surfacing that confirms suspicions by the movement that that they've really had for a long time reports that surfaced in the guardian showing official documents and papers. links between the penny at the campaign and televisa arranging spots arranging people treatment there was even a ridiculous revelation at one point that showed that the state department acknowledged as well that there was a systematic favorable treatment by. the then presidential candidate so in my.
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recent inauguration and what protesters and social movements like are calling. the presidential victory. much than any of those being labeled as. the candidate that never really had very clear positions or apologies and this is it shows that actually at last you. look fair where. the reporter of ours is three most influential book and was and that's a difficult question for a lot of us into in terms of choosing three bucks at the put it means three books until we actually struggled on cross two of mexico's most famous authors at least the burning mean the violent bumbling answer showed in many ways i had a very early stage actually mean this is way back in last november why folks really as kind of a fabricated media bride not necessarily a qualified presidential candidate one of the guys that got his me mixed up with was a carlos fuentes he called and regal and we keep one thing in this came out with
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a very telling quote he said looking at those every right not to read my books and it's very clear that he hasn't but he has no right to be. and that is again one of the leading concerns in addition to the repression of the violence that really harkens back to the seventy one year reign of the free that chav and. indeed and one of your special case andrew is the drug war you know a lot of countries in latin america a lot of their leaders are rethinking their approach to the drug war. especially in light of a lot of legalization efforts and the united states i mean mexico is at the crosshairs here of the drug war do you think the will be reproaching this issue or will he just kind of state of course what do you think. well first. especially for folks like us who follow the program very close very honestly not the first proclamation made after he won the election was that he would not change make incentives to get
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changes to the security policy so right away we knew that there was not going to be any closer in the nation and that should go up more more than other limited kind of things that we've seen so basically there wasn't really big changes expected but in talking to other fellow journalists and folks who've been covering this for a very long time the feeling is that if anything's going to change it's going to be an increase the kind of favorable treatment that we saw from the towards one cartel in particular seen a lower cartel perhaps kind of expanding at the more cartels this is kind of like a general approach at the preop that has the cartels kind of having corrupt arrangements sort of under the table deals kind of share territory so to speak so that mine happened i mean we do know is that the pond according to the mix those legal security experts and analysts and i guess that journalists like that has had a very favorable and long standing or anything with that scene or part of this is actually documented by national public radio analysis that found that each leading
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high level arrest at any of the leading cartels was indeed with the scene or cartel and this this is the biggest cartel in mexico the biggest cartel arguably in the world and so what started surfacing really was the idea that there was people treatment being given out. in order to kind of. the drug war when there's more than one part of the orders more violence you know there's more destruction and kind of and it's sort of a kind of a white flag arrangement this was not in there was even links and this is exposed by michael out additional gagan and i and several of the case in the leading investigators here in mexico that there were links between the fast and furious program and with systematic kind of institute of fact a furious weapons winding up directly in the hands of that you are cartel is different than the media narrative that the fact that there is what is being lost when it. gets burned actually also by lissa blowers and sworn testimony in congress
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that these weapons are really lining up directly in the hands of this english so between the u.s. and mexico it's unclear whether this favorable treatment will be genuine or extended would be a damaging evidence and against the government the lines that there is a drug war being fought and then back there's probably something very different indeed indeed yes the media narrative is quite different from from the troops on the ground thank you so much for coming on breaking it down and explain a little bit about what's happening right there from mexico city investigative journalist andrew kindness my pleasure. all you like what you see so far go to our you tube channel you tube dot com plus breaking fed inscribed to us or check out our facebook page at facebook dot com plus breaking that fat and if you're wondering about what i'm doing when i'm not on the air follow me on twitter at abby martin i took a break from my preaching for now it's a turn to hear if the u.s. is set to launch itself off the fiscal cliff next.
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fiscal cliff fiscal cliff fiscal cliff if you completely fell off the mainstream news clip this week here's what you might have missed can you hear me now no more reindeer games in washington president obama and house speaker john boehner finally on speaking terms but the question is are they speaking each other's language when it comes to the fiscal cliff falling off the fiscal cliff into freefall is there a soft landing or not but to be the end of the world if washington failed to reach a deal to stop the more than half a billion dollars in spending cuts and tax increases from going into effect my next
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guest says the fiscal cliff is simply y2k fair all over again which amounted to nothing as i recall i agree we're not going to go over the cliff will hug him you know we will all be out of the work. so basically lots of speculation and very little substance but i can't say i'm not surprised particular day when i look at the recent rhetoric from this do nothing congress take us for example armed services committee just described the looming defense cuts as quote an unacceptable risk that will quote severely diminished america's global posture right this would be devastating to a country that right now spends as much on its military as the next ten countries combined so would this be the end of defense as we know it that's exactly the question that my next case explored in a panel called the fiscal cliff what does this mean for defense and national security i'm joined now by colonel douglas macgregor thank you so much for taking the time sure so there is so much hype about this lawmakers are saying that this would be absolutely paralyzing to the military what's your response well let's
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understand what they're talking about in real terms right now if sequel straight happens which is at this point looks inevitable but it may not be you're looking at fifty five to sixty billion dollars of cuts next year you're looking a little more than five hundred billion over ten years. in reality when you begin adding up everything that is committed to defense and to its budget beyond the five hundred six hundred billion that we normally spend their one hundred billion dollars more in all sorts of departments national security agency central intelligence agency other organs united states government are also part of the defense establishment provide support for your almost up to a trillion dollars the issue is not the impact on defense just it's not going to make any difference in fundamental terms but the impact in local areas places like san diego that depend on billions of dollars of income from the defense industry that's the kind of impact that it will have and you've been in the military for
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a long time you have a vantage point that a lot of us don't have are there any specific defense programs that could be cut or even abolished and that sense well i think there are i think to be perfectly blunt right now the f. thirty five program is an. a lot of trouble there's a lot of struggle inside the program several people have told me that you've got to cancel the f. thirty five b. this is the vertical takeoff and landing version of the f. thirty five to quote unquote save the program there are many people who are prepared to cut it because remember they see on the hill defense cuts in in different settings when you look at the f. thirty five if you look at the army's proposed ground combat vehicle thirty four billion dollars to build an eighty four ton vehicle which which strikes most rational people is absurd the hill says we don't need of six we can do without it it's not going to debilitate us in the meantime they're interested in sustaining other programs that have to do with the redistribution of taxpayer money so you
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just wrote an op ed for time dot com where you lay out kind of three options that we can solve this can you lay those not really sure very briefly the first thing is we've got to reduce the regional unified commands your viewers may not know it but we have commands that essentially cover the entire globe right now we treat the entire world as a military backyard for the united states it's unnecessary it's unneeded we don't need it the rest of the world probably doesn't want it so we can afford to cut back on those then we need as a as a consequence to start consolidating hundreds of headquarters into a smaller number of joint force commands we have too many senior officers for fifteen million men during world war two in the army in the army air corps we had four four star generals today for a force of maybe eight hundred eighty thousand in the army in the air force we have twenty three four stars the thing has grown out of control largely as a result of the cold war you know i'm not going to sit here and of course defend
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not cutting defense but i can't help but think it's almost a distraction when when we have these giant corporations and wall street not being taxed i mean can we solve this whole fiscal cliff by just taxing those no no unfortunately we can't we face something and this is this is what your viewers need to understand most americans haven't got this yet we're in new territory we have a sixteen trillion dollar debt. it has a potentially crushing impact people here in washington say you know that it doesn't matter what difference does it make we can borrow as much money as we like forever wrong we can't if you don't grow economically you can't attract investment truth is we're not really growing theoretically at one point two percent and falling europe is in serious trouble what happens in europe what happens in china where they're preparing for a hard landing all of these things will have an impact here we're in a lot of trouble you can't retire that debt so no you could confiscate all the
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wealth from the top five percent of the american people it would make a dent really it wouldn't make a try you know you talk about running the government for six months. all right well let's talk about the new the the new fiscal year two thousand and thirteen bill that was just passing and it's about a senate out awaiting on the house but it's an increase of seventeen billion dollars is this a gross contradiction we're talking about you know we're facing this lou mean cliff that we're about to toss is the whole point that i think that we have to be this is the point the senate is living in fantasyland the people in the house know this is not sustainable there is more reality in the house and in the senate the senate is the political equivalent of a hollow in political terms united states they are remote from reality with very few exceptions and the republicans and democrats behave like a group of of drunks accusing each other of alcoholism in other words everyone is spending into oblivion it's going to stop because we can't afford it and it's really going to stop after we go off multiple cliffs and we can't borrow any more
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money that's what lies in the future so you're i mean what you're proposing doesn't seem like what a lot of lawmakers are assessing as is the impending doom that they need to to really realistically approach so how is this all going to play out when you run out of money you have to do something else look when did the british leave india they didn't believe india when they should have which was really. right after world war one that had made no sense to stay they were losing money they left when they were broke after world war two when they had nothing and they had no choice but to leave people with their given no choice and they have nobody to make hard decisions were will take another couple of years to get there but we're going to begin to see some of it over the next twenty four months. and you know let's talk about in this recent bill you know they're increasing it by seventeen billion dollars yet at the same time they're cutting thirty thousand personnel i mean it's just so
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bizarre it's like it just seems like you're right they are living in this fantasy land when you hit on something else the generals in the annals unfortunately historically are quite willing to send soldiers sailors airmen and marines on to the street but we never lose any generals we never lose any admirals that's the problem with the massive command overhead the bureaucratic structure that we don't need and that's one of our problems four thousand soldiers also means four thousand men in support of a four star headquarters so if you're a choice four thousand troops that fight or a four star headquarters troops that fight go away that's when you have to have civilian leadership that since war and decisive determined start there very interesting indeed thank you for breaking down some about rhetoric and convoluted so really helps everyone check out your op ed for time dot com very informative piece thank you for coming on douglas macgregor to share your time.
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i. all right guys here's the latest news on the war on terror front u.s. drones killed three militants in pakistan's taliban controlled region of north waziristan and by militant i mean the term that the white house uses for any human being blown to pieces by a u.s. missile. not only has the perpetual use of drones over pakistan yemen somalia killed countless innocent civilians but the operations are planting the seeds of resentment and thus terrorism against the us among the civilian populations of these countries this was exactly the point that former us president jimmy carter made to me last week during my trip to haiti check it out. i think we do more than good but having. potential terrorists who have not been proven that they're guilty but in the meantime the drone attacks also killed you know women and
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children so it would english and i think this is a rather more new terrorists then it's possibly a correction in maybe killing a few of the terrorist leaders and in fact his point is also one made by pakistan's foreign minister who has said that the number one reason for anti-american sentiment in the region is drone warfare but alas this country chooses to drone on so what the whole of it is right around the corner let's talk about what's on president obama's wish list this year my guess is that it's an upgrade of his favorite toy killer unmanned robots which is why i like to call president obama the drone carrying pack today's hash tag is officially drone king a phrase i coined on the show that's in picking up some steam in the social media world so keep throwing that into the twitter verse so anyways yes it's a great year for drones and you won't believe what kind of upgrades they've been getting lately check this one out the d.h.s.s. funny a new underwater robot made to look like a tuna fish through a contract with the corporation boston engineering court of the agency the natural
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looking design is perfect for covert security missions and look at this what looks like science fiction is actually a rowboat jellyfish being developed by virginia tech for the u.s. navy but the goal of one day putting out thomas robot jellyfish and every body of water around the world yep. drones aren't limited to the skies anymore although we are seeing a record number of licenses grant granted for unmanned drones to fly over the u.s. take a look at this map it was put together by the electronic frontier foundation for a lawsuit against the f.a.a. and shows you the number of licenses the u.s. military has to fly drones in u.s. air space the records obtained by the e.f.-s. also reveal that the air force has been testing a whole host of new drones like the who much. which can be launched from and land on practically any environment at a fraction of the size of the larger deadlier drones that have been used and
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countless targeted assassination campaigns overseas then there's the scan eagle developed by insitu these puppies host a camera turret that can track moving targets for extended periods of time even if the drone is moving away from the target while there are countless other drone projects in the works i do want to mention what is possibly the creepiest of them all a darpa reaper that uses gorgon stair technology which is the find is a spherical ray of nine cameras mounted on a single area drone capable of capturing motion imagery on an entire city landscape so guys what this little drone update should tell you is that if you didn't think that you could fall victim to the surveillance state the wrong you're already have we all have.
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